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Why You Can’t Afford to Miss The Upcoming Artist Development Retreat!

  • Be Heard – Vocals with Brett Manning
  • Be Seen – Stage Performance with Tom Jackson
  • Be Followed – Social Media with Rick Barker

 

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My name’s Brett Manning and welcome to the Singing Success Show Podcast. Oh, you want to talk about me? Okay, yeah, hey, yeah, what’s the what Chaumont? Oh, not again. He’s making me learn Chinese so we could like better relate to our Chinese. Come on, mean – watch out ninja. I suppose Nijo, you know Nijo mom means. He says, “What jao dustin?” Oh yeah, watch out Dustin. Yeah, and then Nina Nina and you and I say good job Brett. Now you learned some Chinese. You’re smarter than you were a second ago by far. I’ve increased. I’ve doubled your IQ in 30 seconds. Incredible. Stick with us 30 milliseconds and we’ll add two percent to your IQ. Oh, proven today. Where we first of all, we want to give an announcement about our tornado that has taken a lot of innocent human lives. This is a horrible, horrible thing. I mean, I know you lost a lot of sleep that night. I lost a lot of sleep. It was just a terrifying night for all of us. We heard about this sweeping through the city. People were texting me pictures real-time as things were happening from 2:00 in the morning till like 5:00 in the morning. I didn’t sleep. And then to find out there was the loss of life. At first, the count was seven, and then it was 11, and then it was like 15, and then 19, 17, 19, and 22. And it’s just horrible because, you know, I don’t think there’s some people then I still haven’t heard from, so I don’t know at the time this is being recorded. These are pre-recorded, so this has been a little while. But you, I know that the cleanup is gonna be a while. It’s hundreds of millions of dollars of damage, so you can give money to the Red Cross. A lot of people lost their homes. So there’s miraculous stories of people who probably should have died, entire families who were able to… One story of a family, the artist, uh, oh my gosh, I think you know who he is. A well-known songwriter here, his name was on the tip of my tongue. But he’s talking about Dierks Bentley. Well, you know, his Steve Miss Moore lived in East Nashville. Yeah, their house was completely tore up. And yeah, he actually showed up to kind of help clear some of that debris. So that’s really cool, like seeing that kind of stuff when the artist community jumps in to help, you know, the community around them. I mean, Nashville is known for its volunteerism so much. It’s actually known or Tennessee’s called the Volunteer State, interesting enough. But when we had the flood, you remember ten years ago when we were doing my record, literally ten years ago. So, I guess every decade or some horrible thing happens here. It’s kind of eerie that how that has happened. Actually, because then we had two earthquakes 20 years ago here, earthquakes. No, the other tornado about 98. But this big flood and way before FEMA got here, they had so many volunteers. A couple of times I went and volunteered some site, and they said we got too many people. You have to leave. Well, they said we don’t have room for you. They’re in each house where they’re cleaning out and tear. They had too many people. Like, someone was standing around people. Yeah, yeah. So it was pretty exciting and to be able to help out a little bit and then be told you have to leave. Well, they said we don’t have room for you. There, in each house, where they’re cleaning out and tearing, they had too many people, like someone was standing around people. Yeah, yeah, so it was pretty exciting, and it to be able to help out a little bit, and then be told you got to go ’cause we got the next shift coming in. Yeah, that’s a beautiful thing you don’t see that a lot.

No, but you can donate to the Red Cross. I’m sure that this cleanup is gonna be a long and tedious thing. We lost most of our most treasured East Nashville spots. East Nashville is a super artsy community with really cool venues. The Basement East just tore that place up. I was just there with my good friend Madison, my coach, and her dad and family watching the North Mississippi Allstars. Those guys are so good, they are so funky. That drummer is insane. The kind of stuff I cut my teeth on, man. Oh yeah, wish to be that good, oh man. And that guitar player goes on for days, so soulful.

And so, that was my last memory of the Basement East. But it’s not going to be my last memory, you know. It’ll be back, better than ever. That’s how Nashville rolls. So anyway, please, you know, your thoughts, your prayers, and your money. Just donate to get on that Red Cross and, you know, anyway as well. Yep, you know, anyway as well.

But we want to talk about our, well, first of all, another shout-out to Benny’s student, who we’ve had a couple of chances to work with. But honestly, let’s be sure, he is the young man’s coach, the son of great classical pianist Graciela Cossack. And her little son’s name is Xander, and little Xander is just the sweetest, sweetest boy. Five years old, speaks almost fluent Chinese, almost fluent Spanish. I mean, it’s pretty intense. And he’s doing astrophysics talks on Ellen DeGeneres. If you haven’t seen that, watch The Ellen Show and look for Xander spelled with an “xx” and “de R.” He’s gonna be on there again, and there’s some chances that there will be a song that he has done. We’ll see. At the time this is released, you’re going to either hear about it or you’re not. But we did record a song, and you will hear it by the time this is out. So, five years old, a student just cute as a man.

Personality, we’d be in the studio and I says, “You want to do it again?” He goes, “Yes,” like because he’s just… he’s like a little jealous kid. Yes, you’re so excited to sing and a little raspy voice yet. You know, you’re coming off of something. He had an allergy attack the day we were recording, and I said, “Good,” because now his voice is fuzzy and cute. Yeah, and this little cute little fuzzy boy got his little raspy voice. Yes, this is adorable. I love it.

We want to talk about what are we here for today, talked about our upcoming artist retreat that we’re having. And as you know, we’ve had two last year. It was like these retreats were like 17, 18, 19 years apart because the last time we were doing this was around the year 2000. And so in 2000, 2001, we had both Keith Urban in 2000, takes six some of those guys out, and then Hayley Williams is an alumna of ours in 2001. She went in there, blew everybody’s minds. We kind of knew she was gonna be famous. Some people you can’t predict, but there were like, it’s a no-brainer, she’s a star. And several other people have gone on to do some great things since then.

But we have three things that we’re doing. We’re saying we want you to be heard, to be seen, and to be followed. So our heart means build your voice for seven days. This is June 7th at a lakeside beautiful retreat here in Nashville. Have you been out there? It’s unbelievable. It’s a paradise. You walk around like people who went to the first two. We had a spring retreat, then we had a fall retreat. This time it’s early summer, where you really is just the foliage, and it’s like a rainforest almost. It really is. It’s paradise. And then the lake, you can see through the trees, and you walk down to the lake, and especially in the mornings, just clear and still. And if you fish or if you don’t fish, whatever you want to do, and ride a canoe or something in the morning or a bid to catch your lunch, here, yes you do. And if you’re vegetarian, we make you pick your mushrooms or whatever, don’t pick the poisonous ones.

Harlan Howard, I need his name, is a famous country songwriter. He’s just… I wrote this last song about my ex-wife. Visit. He goes, “They all died, poisonous mushrooms, except for the last one. I had to shoot her. She wouldn’t eat the mushrooms.” Losing my mind. Nashville, but out there… Edit out. There’s beautiful trails, walking trails, beautiful retreat center, and there’s going to be every day just saturating yourself in vocal coaching and performance coaching with Tom Jackson, who is the industry’s go-to guy.

He’s unbelievable. He can turn my best description of him, after years of watching his magic, is that he can turn somebody from a dork to De Bono in about an hour. I’ve seen it happen, folks. It’s a lot less time than that, it’s really fast. It’s just his transformation. A lot of people are like, what I call Talladega Nights syndrome, in case you didn’t see it. Will Ferrell just went, “Take second this race,” and they’re interviewing him. He’s never been on camera. He goes, “I thought I was like on a spaceship. I’m not sure what to do with my hands.” Like, yeah, it’d be good just to put them down your side. He goes, “At the end of the day, you have to feel pretty good about the race.” And they keep wishing and keep loader doesn’t know what to do with themselves. The car handled real good.

So what happens is you get on stage and you’re just not sure. Little things like, yeah, and you remember doing all in your mind how we like killed that one and had the whole plan, and that was the one song that Tom coaches. So in every success, it seems so spontaneous. It wasn’t spontaneous. It was planned to look spontaneous. That’s the key. Yes, things have to look spontaneous, but it was mighty. Okay, did you believe me? That looks spontaneous, but I wasn’t planning on saying, “Where’s my tea?” You have to have it happen like it’s the first time you’ve had that thought. Even performing your song, you could actually be singing when you’re performing.

I’ll give you a couple of preview tips from Tom Jackson. We’ll talk about being followed later. Like, if I sit there and say, you know, if I’m sitting here going… [Music] “Man, I must be wicked, I was looking for some miracles. Attempting God, part two, just for me.” Now, if I say that, I can say that like it’s the first time I had that thought. So I could be sitting or say, “I must be wicked, looking for a miracle, tempting God, pirate the CEPA, only me.” But everything that I had longed for was suddenly in front of me.

All of a sudden, my world had started to spin. No lightning in the sky was flashing. You played drums on this several times. Oh, that’s… uh, oh my gosh. I can’t… it’s always on. I swore since the moon, though I swore a since the moonlight in your eyes, in broad daylight.

I can’t deny this any longer, I’m undone. I finally have found. I love seeing that stuff live when it seems like they’re writing something, yeah, like in real time. I try to do that, like the thought is coming to me. Like when I said, “Where’s my tea?” and Tom has the ability to do that. I try to get a person to do that vocally, but he has to do that like these and our motions are not planned. If your show looks too choreographed, unless it’s a legitimate dance move, if it looks too choreographed, your audience goes hokey. I went to a concert of a very famous diva. I’m not going to say her name, and everything was walk out here, do this. Very Vegas-y. Vegas is cool, I mean it has this thing. I’ve been to Vegas several times and you were just there. It’s an amazing city. Those people who just think it’s just Sin City, the most evil place you can go, it’s just, yeah, I got to avoid someplace. That’s a given. But there’s also some really cool things. It’s beautiful. But like you say, it’s very programmed. And if that’s your thing and that’s what you’re trying to do, that’s great. And Tom even works with people like that too. But still, to make it interesting, to make it feel spontaneous, because the more concise your plan is, the more spontaneous it will actually feel. That just sounds really crazy, but it’s planned spontaneous, which is ridiculous. If I say, “Yeah, I plan on being spontaneous tomorrow,” you’ve got to be spontaneous this second. But that plan can include options, and then you choose.

That’s the beauty of performance and creating an engaging show. It’s about finding that balance between planning and allowing room for spontaneity. Tom Jackson has mastered this art. He can take someone who may seem awkward or unsure and transform them into a captivating performer in just an hour or even less. I’ve witnessed it firsthand, and it’s truly incredible.

One common issue performers face is the Talladega Nights syndrome, as I like to call it. It’s when you’re on stage and you’re not sure what to do with your hands or how to present yourself. Tom helps artists overcome these challenges and teaches them how to make their performances look natural and unscripted, even though they are carefully planned.

When you perform, you want every moment to feel fresh and spontaneous, as if it’s the first time you’re having that thought or singing that song. It’s all about creating an authentic connection with your audience. Tom Jackson provides valuable coaching on how to achieve this. He guides artists to deliver their songs in a way that feels genuine and heartfelt, keeping the audience engaged and immersed in the experience.

I can’t stress enough the importance of striking a balance between choreography and the appearance of spontaneity. While choreography has its place, especially in dance routines, a music performance needs to have that element of surprise and unexpected moments. That’s what keeps the audience hooked and makes the show memorable.

So, if you’re aspiring to be a captivating performer, consider the art of planned spontaneity. Embrace the power of a well-crafted plan that allows room for improvisation and personal expression. Tom Jackson’s expertise in performance coaching can help you elevate your stage presence and create a show that feels alive and truly connected with your audience.

In the dating life, whether it’s with your spouse or before you’re married, the question of what to do often arises. Many people struggle with coming up with something spontaneous to do. Having a list of spontaneous activities can be helpful, like using an app that provides a variety of options. Back in the day, we didn’t have such conveniences and had to rely on notepads and brainstorming.

When it comes to the most spontaneous thing I’ve done on stage, it would probably be a drum solo. Drum solos typically don’t have much of a place in modern situations, but when executed well, they can be cool. It’s similar to a thrashing tapping guitar solo that adds excitement. However, too much choreography in a music performance can make it seem hokey, and the audience prefers a sense of spontaneity.

That’s where a good performance coach like Tom Jackson comes in. He has the ability to teach artists how to plan for spontaneity. By carefully crafting a plan that includes options, you can choose and adapt on stage, creating moments that feel fresh and unscripted. It may sound paradoxical, but planned spontaneity is key to engaging an audience and making a show memorable.

Now, with the upcoming retreat in June, it’s an incredible opportunity to spend seven days with Tom Jackson, which in the past would have been more expensive than the entire retreat itself. During the retreat, you’ll not only benefit from Tom’s coaching but also attend clinics, vocal masterclasses, social media masterclasses, and music marketing masterclasses.

Speaking of music marketing, Rick Barker, a former manager of Taylor Swift, is also involved in the retreat. Rick has great insights into the industry and can provide valuable guidance on how to be heard, seen, and followed. It’s important to have a comprehensive approach to building your career as an artist.

Rehearsals are a crucial part of becoming a great performer. Even the greatest acts rehearse extensively. They rehearse more than they perform, especially in the beginning. Eventually, the balance shifts, and they perform more than they rehearse. Rehearsals allow for adding new elements or improvisation into the setlist, enhancing the overall performance.

In the case of Taylor Swift, the combination of planned rehearsals and spontaneous additions on stage resulted in an unforgettable show. The audience was captivated by her talent and the unexpected moments she incorporated into her performance. It’s a testament to the power of blending preparation with the excitement of spontaneity.

To succeed as an artist, you need to be heard, seen, and followed. These three aspects are interconnected and crucial for building a dedicated fan base. With the expertise of Tom Jackson, Rick Barker, and others, the retreat offers a unique opportunity to learn and grow as a performer, enhancing your ability to connect with audiences and make a lasting impact.

Bringing joy through music is essential, as I experienced a breakthrough with one of my students, Peter, in China. We realized that beyond vocal range and technical improvements, the most important thing is to find joy in singing and to bring joy to others. Being heard brings happiness.

Imagine having the choice between opening for a famous band like Imagine Dragons or fulfilling the dying wish of a child from the Make-A-Wish Foundation. The right thing to do is to prioritize the child’s wish, even though it may seem selfish to some. It’s about having faith that doing the right thing will lead to the right results.

I remember a show called “Can You Do It?” where I was a judge. During the show, Bobby Brown was set to sing for children with cancer. However, he became overwhelmed by their bravery and couldn’t find the words to express his feelings. It’s incredible how these kids, despite their circumstances, inspire such admiration and respect.

Performers have a responsibility to spread joy, not only to large crowds but also to smaller audiences. I recall a time when I confronted a noisy table during a performance and asked them to be quiet. It may seem confrontational, but it’s about respect. When you attend a performance, you should give your full attention and refrain from disturbing others.

Sometimes, you have to command respect and silence in the room. Mindy Smith, a talented artist, experienced this when dealing with a noisy audience during a fundraising event. She had the confidence to demand their attention, and the applause that followed was a testament to her authenticity and determination.

As artists, knowing who you are and what you represent is crucial. It’s essential to have the confidence to command a room and demand respect, even if it means silencing a few disrespectful individuals. Joining the upcoming retreat with Tom Jackson and Rick Barker will provide valuable insights and knowledge that can transform your career. Fundraising is possible if you’re passionate and share your dreams with others.

Take the opportunity to invest in your career and break through any obstacles. This one-week retreat can change your life and propel you to the next level.

 

 

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Could Singing Success and/or Speech Level Singing hurt your voice?

On this episode, you’ll discover if Singing Success and/or Speech Level Singing can hurt your voice and what the difference is between the two, plus:

  • what techniques can hurt you and what techniques will NEVER hurt your voice!
  • TECHNIQUE — You will either pay to stay the same or get better… Both can be expensive.
  • a good reason to never take voice lessons — they don’t work..
  • and much more…

 

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Transcription Of “What you need to know about Singing Success and Speech Level Singing-“


[00:00:00] Hey, this is Brett Manning and welcome to the Singing Success Show podcast. I’m your host, and this is my co-host, Dustin Small. Good to see you guys again. Good to see you. I hope you’ve been joining us. If you haven’t seen the earlier podcast, go watch those because these kind of build on each other. Um, Let’s, let’s, uh, go do a couple shout outs.
[00:00:31] Why don’t you throw down, well, I wanted to mention, we just got word that Laney Wilson has made her Opry debut. Ooh, I believe that was earlier this week. I’ve heard great things so far. Awesome. What an experience for her. Gosh. Yeah. It’s, uh, it’s, it’s, it’s supposed to be the craziest, most surreal thing that I hear from lots of artists that I can only imagine.
[00:00:53] It’s, yes. It’s almost like at that point is, would be like doing the, uh, Carnegie [00:01:00] Hall. That correct? Our, our Opryland is the New York Carnegie Hall. I’m singing Carnegie Hall. Well, you’ve arrived , so That’s right. Yeah. Uh, we have a word that Passion has got a new album coming out on March 6th, so it’s uh, awesome.
[00:01:13] It’s, uh, something that I’m looking forward to. Yes, me too. Had a little bit more, uh, influence to the quiet time there, if you will. Yep, absolutely. What else we got? And, uh oh. Hey, our friend Clark Beckham on Tour Clark. Wow. Why don’t you talk a little bit about Clark. Clark, uh, has been using my program for a little over 10 years.
[00:01:32] Uh, I ran into him about four years, five years ago. Gosh, is it five? Five years ago was doing a gig on Music Row and found out that he was, uh, the artist right before me. And then he got up there and said, Hey, I just want to give a shout to my vocal coach. He doesn’t know he is my vocal coach, but I’ve been using his program for like 10 years and it really saved my voice.
[00:01:56] And he told this beautiful story and he came over and met me and then we ended up working [00:02:00] together. I remember just being blown away, like, who is this machine up there? Honestly, the guy is a machine. If you haven’t heard Clark, The best description of his voice is capable. And that’s one of the best compliments I could ever give a singer when they arrived to a certain place.
[00:02:16] Like, you can do whatever you want. Right? And he’s that guy, just super soulful, brilliant musician. Um, a vocal artist who was first runner up on American Idols, season 14, I think Nick Fredo, or however you say it, Fred, whatever his name was. Uh, one that, but it was one of the closest votings they’ve ever had on the first place.
[00:02:36] And, uh, so his name will come up a little bit later as we start talking about getting a record deals and whether you want one or not. And sometimes it’s good, something’s bad, but yeah, so watch for him. Get his record. Um, it’s fantastic record. Uh, he has a performance of him playing here on the M channel, on the meal channel on Facebook.
[00:02:58] Uh, so we did a Facebook Live [00:03:00] here, and it was f. Right on. All right. What’s our topic for today, Brett? Our topic today is something you know a little bit about, I would hope. Okay. Well, um, here, well, here’s the question on our topic. It says, can singing success and or speech level singing hurt my voice? And what is the difference between the two?
[00:03:26] And I’ve got a couple talking points and my first talking point. To say something that, uh, is a little as controversial, I wanna say, I want to give you a damn good reason to never take voice lessons. Wait, say that again. A damn good reason to never take voice lessons. You do know why we’re here today, Brett?
[00:03:49] Yeah. I have a VO scotch and, okay, well carry on. I gotta hear this now. Then. Here’s a damn good reason because. , whatever you’re doing, you’re either gonna get [00:04:00] worse, gonna get better, or stay the same. Fair. And so you’ve had lessons and we can talk about that where mm-hmm. where you felt like maybe you just stay the same, nothing has changed.
[00:04:11] Yep. That’s a good reason to not take a lesson. Uh, you get worse that Yeah. If you get worse, that’s a very good reason to take, to not take a lesson. Um, A very famous country artist called, and I worked with her guitar player and she, and she was cussing in the background like a sailor with a raspy voice.
[00:04:29] He goes, tell Brett Meneses to fix my voice. And because some coach had been making her yell, and a coach who hates my God, who. Who? There’ll be a nice segue into this, Ken, singing Success hurt your voice. Well, apparently you hear hurt her voice cuz she was yelling. And yelling is the worst thing you’ll do as a singer.
[00:04:46] Crying. You can’t lose your voice. Babies never lose their voice, even when you want them to. They can say, ah, and never lose their voice. Why? Because it’s intuitive for them, counterintuitive, uh, [00:05:00] for us. But shouting is our intuitive sense. We panic because human beings are stupid because we are the only animals who run faster when we get lost.
[00:05:09] And whoa, that will lead you to yell. And so because, uh, this girl was yelling, um, she needed me to fix it, so I gave him a couple exercise to show her, and she basically just went to a throat doctor and instead of working with me, It’s fine too, cuz the guy she went does the same exercises and that’s cool.
[00:05:28] Um, would’ve loved to work with her, but, you know, she was so angry. I didn’t want to be in that fire though, man. I didn’t, yeah. I didn’t want to feel that fire, that rage coming on me like, Hey, I just wait for the, the fire to calm down. But, but she ended up winning her first Grammy recently too. I’m not gonna say who it is, but she, she, um, yeah, she got her voice heard.
[00:05:49] Mm. So people ask all this time and say’s, so a damn good reason to not take it is because you’re getting worse. in her case. Mm-hmm. saying the same in your case, and a lot of times in my case and some of the lessons I took in the past, [00:06:00] but getting better is a great reason to study. . Oh yeah, I would say so.
[00:06:04] But those other two reasons are 10. Two damn good reasons to not ever take a voice lesson unless you know, unless it’s reputable. Unless these people are saying, Hey man, I’m telling you what, in the first half hour you’re gonna say, I’ve just figured out my voice. There’s, it should produce radical change.
[00:06:21] I say, either you’re learning rapidly or you are wasting your time. Life is too short to learn slowly. Fair enough. Ouch. How many, how many things, how many lessons are we trying to learn in our lives? And we’re doing it too slow? Probably more than we would like to admit, unfortunately. But hey, we’re here.
[00:06:41] It’s all about improvement. That’s right. Improvement, fast, rapid change doesn’t mean being in such a hurry that you can’t go through the process you, it does create pa. You do need patience, but I have no patience for something that doesn’t work. I want to be patient with something that is. . [00:07:00] Well, what, what specific techniques do you find, you know, in all of your experience and knowledge that do tend to put undue strain on your voice and what you know, the opposite.
[00:07:12] What, what do you find eases that strain or immediately, uh, improves it? Well, the first thing, and you experience this in your first lesson, why don’t you, um, we were talking yesterday about someone you’d worked with before and she does similar exercise. But why, why, why it wasn’t working. Uh, I all, all we were doing were running scales.
[00:07:34] There was, there was literally no real demonstrations to Explan what it was, there was no demonstration. There was no technique. There was no information as to why this was being done. Yeah, this is basically do this, boom, now do this, nay, now do this, mama. And you see all the plaques. They were plaques on the walls.
[00:07:49] And that was basically all the ex explanation. This part. Uh, coach thought that they, they needed when you walked into the room, couldn’t be further from the case. Yeah. And, and it’s [00:08:00] not, it could be any, anyone, honestly, it’s, it’s, this person was recommended to me from a high up at C aa, who I was working with at the time.
[00:08:09] Mm-hmm. , this person was their first call for a vocal coach. No, it’s not like I was just, you know, down in somebody’s basement, somebody who just graduated Belmont as a, as a. a vocal, uh, performance major that just said, oh, well, you know, I can’t really perform much right now, so I guess I’ll just teach voice lessons.
[00:08:27] Why not? I mean, I’ve been in plenty of lessons. I can run scales on a piano. Right. How hard can it be? Yeah. This definitely was, was not the case. This per this person was, was called upon a lot Yeah. To work with lots of different artists, uh, some of which you’ve definitely heard of. Trust me on that one.
[00:08:44] Mm-hmm. . and for me it did nothing. So in your first session with me, we talked about disconnect the digastric and high oid muscles of swallowing muscles when we were doing this, which [00:09:00] keeps you from straining. And the second these muscles pull down, you know something’s wrong. Yep. So if I can’t hum high, if I can’t go.
[00:09:08] And by the way, completely un warmed up by the way, and. Your warmup shouldn’t have to take years. , you should be able to find your voice very quickly if you’ve disengaged those muscles. The vocal cords are vibrating freely. If they’re vibrating freely, they’re warming up quickly. If they’re not, you’re actually just warming up muscles that surround.
[00:09:27] But did you hear those? That word diagnostic, hyoid, swallowing muscles, anything? Outer muscles. The larynx never heard that first session. I think the only thing I heard was, can I get you a water or a Coke? Yeah. Or a Coke or a. Actually. I don’t think that’s wrong. Yeah, I think I’ve, that’s, I may have been offered a Coke.
[00:09:45] Yeah. Yeah. I’ve, I’ve, I’ve had some of this other coach, I’m not even say male or female, this other coach’s, uh, uh, clients. And, and I, I have respect for this particular coach’s order of exercises. I listen to a warmup said That’s a pretty good warmup [00:10:00] if you know what you’re doing. Yes. If you don’t know what you’re doing, it’s like watching an, uh, an exercise app can help you.
[00:10:06] You know, I can sit there and say, do pushups, do squats, do pullups. You’ll get in shape. Yeah. And some planks too. It’d be good. Your phone. Just sit there. Great job, Sally. Yeah. Keep up the good work. Yeah, but what about form? The form is everything. When I learned to do a correct pullup, even a correct pushup, but changed.
[00:10:24] Everything I was told push my shoulder blades together as I go down suddenly. Wow. I got strong fast, really fast because I was doing it right. So doing a thing over and over again expecting a different result. We all know is the definition of insanity. Sanity. Yes. Thank you. So you had been doing that, you, did you hear about dropping the larynx?
[00:10:45] Okay. What was, I mean, dropping there? You pick it up and drop it. No. Lowering the larynx because as you sing higher, the propensity is for your larynx to raise up. If you’re putting your hand on your Adam’s apple, that v-shaped notch, if you go to the top of your neck, slide down, don’t push hard, you [00:11:00] push gently and you’ll, you’ll feel a, a little v-shaped notch you swallow.
[00:11:04] That goes up, you yawn, it goes down. Now you don’t see with it all the way dodge can see muddy line. sing in the middle. It’s okay. But the problem is, is you go higher, the larynx wants to raise up. So if I yell a lot of techniques that, or yell techniques that we talked about, the one that busted up that particular girl who was calling me, cussing like a sailor saying mm-hmm.
[00:11:26] cussing like a, why do we say that? I, all the sailors I’ve known don’t cuss, but if I say, yay, yay, yay. Cussing like a natural driver. How’s that? Oh, that’s good. Yay. The larynx goes. And as with the larynx goes up every note, hire gets harder, and eventually I run outta real estate. I’m not gonna have any more room to raise that larynx.
[00:11:50] So the larynx stays neutral. And for those of you watching, I don’t know if you can see my larynx, but if I say this, if I say, uh,[00:12:00]
[00:12:03] It’s three octas. My larynx didn’t move.
[00:12:12] If it doesn’t move, maybe I can do it. That with my mouth open
[00:12:21] doesn’t hurt. Now that’s not my full sound, but. Go and yelling and he go, S spotty, that will hurt your voice. So when people say you can speech level singing hurt your voice. And the reason we say that is the particular guy that was teaching this girl was doing all these videos saying speech level singing and preventing stuff will hurt your voice.
[00:12:42] And somebody left a comment. Now this person actually slandered me. Uh, actually libeled me. Cuz they did it in writing technically. Yeah. Yeah. I’m not going after ’em. I don’t care. They’re kind of small potatoes to me. I mean, you know, bless ’em. I would, I would have coffee with this person. I’d give ’em hug and say, what’s up [00:13:00] bro?
[00:13:00] But, well, it’s never a good idea to try to, you know, Promote your own stuff by slamming somebody else. Exactly. That’s why I’m not gonna mention, mention poor taste, if not completely incorrect. Exactly. And that’s why I just won’t mention names of other people. I just won’t I, but I’ll talk about techniques.
[00:13:16] But this particular person, somebody wrote on sing and said, I use singing success and started making my ears ring. What are you talking? If you have tinnitus, then yeah, maybe your ears are ringing. Had nothing to do with speech level singing cuz speech level singing implies singing on the level of speech.
[00:13:35] If you talking, if I’m saying 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. That’s not speech level singing. That’s a, an to, you know, I’m reaching my chin up and tightening up on the outer muscle larynx. That’s not speech level, level singing that will hurt you, but causing your ears to ring. And then the person responded to this person who was probably a setup.
[00:13:59] Uh, yes. [00:14:00] I’ve also heard that singing success can do that. You have, you want to provide some proof, you know. I heard that you bombed the World Trade Center. Well, that’s really horrible. If I make that type of accusation against you, that’s a terrible, terrible thing. Make an accusation without proof, doesn’t make me a bad person.
[00:14:20] Makes you a bad person. So if you’re that type of person that wants to come out and slander something, eventually you gotta expect me to defend myself just a little bit, and I’m doing it hopefully as winsomely as possible, but with a little bit of intensity because we’ll give you this one, you know, because it’s just make your ears.
[00:14:36] Yeah, it’s frustrating cuz it makes, it makes no sense. And what’d what’d you experience from the technique immediately when you had your first session? Uh, the first word that comes to mind is freedom. Freedom. So freedom. Let freedom ring. Let free freedom. Make your ears ring. Wow. . Well maybe it is a ringing cuz you singing Right?
[00:14:56] And more people are high in as a singer. That’s right. Or maybe, maybe you’re standing in front of too [00:15:00] many guitars cuz you’re singing a lot. Yeah. Maybe ears start ring. I have more power. I’m making my own ears ring. Whoa. That’s whoa, whoa, whoa. So singing success cannot hurt you. Now, anybody can over sing, push, try to outs, sing the song, which I have a quote up there that was from Claude McKnight in a session I did with him where we say, don’t out sing the song.
[00:15:25] Don’t out sing the original artist. Don’t out sing yourself. So I’m my little marker board if, if you’re following me on Instagrams occasionally you’ll see. Post up little things from my board here. Um, a chalkboard wall actually. And, uh, so when we say don’t out sing the song, the song is not asking you to sing as hard as you are.
[00:15:44] Um, there’s some people, I hear girls that sing, I wanna sing as big as Adele. You can’t, she’s got an enormous voice. Sure. Huge voice. and sometimes it’s caused her, I mean, it’s public, we know. Yeah. It’s caused her a little bit of issues. Yeah. She’s had to cancel, I think a couple [00:16:00] tours. Didn’t, hasn’t she in the past.
[00:16:01] Yeah. Cause of, you know, vocal fatigue. And so if she’s singing big and you’re trying to sing as big as her, it’s gonna cause trouble. Yeah. And there’s always that added stress of like the, the live situation that you, you can’t always account for beforehand. Mm-hmm. , you know, when you’re, when you’re on the stage, lights are on you, you know, however many people or eyeballs are staring back at.
[00:16:22] It’s kind of hard to always think about technique and you know, honestly you shouldn’t be mm-hmm. , you should know the technique. You should put the 10,000 hours in before you’re mm-hmm. on that stage and really having to give it your all. But, um, there is that live thing that needs to be accounted for as well.
[00:16:39] And that the, I think the, the key is to it is, is. , you’re confident, you’re comfortable. I mean, you’re com comfortable. You’re in control. You don’t have to work so freaking hard to get this song out. And if, if the song is too hard, there’s Dr. I mean, some of the drummer guys that you’ve worked with, mm-hmm.
[00:16:58] would you try to [00:17:00] trade off riffs and souls with them? You’re like, nah, man, you’re in a whole nother place. Some of these jazz freaks and you know, immense amount of respect for those guys. Oh yeah. , like that’s again alluding to where I’m from, originally from New Orleans. And, uh, it’s, it’s the birthplace of jazz.
[00:17:15] Yeah. Um, I, it’s one of the things that I’m still currently working on is having, having more voicings and particularly in that genre, but I would never, I would never try to trade licks with anybody who, who lives in that world. Cuz I, I, yeah, I know my thing. You stay in your lane and it’s the same thing.
[00:17:33] So if you’re losing your voice when we’re talking about voice injuries today, If you’re losing your voice, it’s because you’re trying to out sing the song. The song didn’t ask you. You’re trying to outing yourself or outing the original artist. I would say the outing yourself is the last one, but outing the original artist.
[00:17:51] Remember this girl singing Mariah, Carrie going, you know, Mariah sings uhk. This goes Treat me Ka.[00:18:00]
[00:18:03] Oh, you know why Mariah didn’t do that? Because she has some wisdom cuz she had the wisdom and the producer saying, don’t do all that, Mariah, hold off. Get the melody. Establish the melody. Why are you out singing that song? And if people hear from the other, they say, I bet I can yell louder, net, hurry up from the other.
[00:18:25] And eventually like, you gotta stop, man. How loud do you think you need to sing? 95% of my coaching in the studio. back off. Yeah. You’re overs singing. Mm-hmm. back off. Back off. Because we hear in our mind these contests on TVs and they say, vote for contestant number one. And it’s tv and it’s cool. I, I’m, I’m all for it.
[00:18:48] I really am. But I, but it’s not radio, right? Radio doesn’t artist number one. And they go R number two, R number three, [00:19:00] you know, and they’re holding out these long money. There’s no money notes on the radio. Hardly ever. Yep. Adele’s one of those few people that that does those just huge voice. But even then, she pulls back and we’re given more to her subtlety.
[00:19:16] So usually you hurt your voice because poor technique. And then if you have great technique, you hurt your voice. As I have, and no singer alive who is honest will tell you that he hasn’t hurt his own voice because we just get foolish. You know, we, we, we, we can push harder and harder and harder because we get our egos take over.
[00:19:35] Well, and you can’t, you can’t compete with, you know, guitar amps and drums, no. Stuff like that. Even though you try to sometimes and Right. Just you back yourself into a hole. It happens to everybody. Like you said, you have to be. Like you said, just stop and realize why am I, what am I doing this for? Why am I trained to out sing myself?
[00:19:54] So don’t give more than you possess. If you find out what is a hundred percent of your voice and sing 60 to 70% of [00:20:00] it. Um, Mari engineer here, LAN Beck over here who will be a guest on here eventually, and we’ll have some great conversations. When I was in the studio with him, I said this very last place, uh, this says,
[00:20:17] and at the very end I says,
[00:20:23] she needs. She me and I’m like going for it. I’m like, is it too much? She goes, well, if you’re ever gonna go for it, it should be now. And I was very, it was good wisdom. It was like the end of the sound. She hits me one song where I get a little risk, that little bit of RAs, because I wanted to just that punch.
[00:20:44] He said, yeah, give one of those. and everybody says, oh, this is my favorite song. Part of the song, well, it’s calculated, it’s right. One money note where I didn’t out sing myself. Sure. And even then, you know, I’m not singing to the full place of my voice. Mm-hmm. , I’m holding back a bit [00:21:00] because I would ruin the song.
[00:21:02] But me, I mean, I don’t listen. People try to make everything squeeze opera like Shees dude, and that even that ain’t even good opera because even Pavarotti. The most resilient vocalist of all time of our time canceled several gigs. He says, T no, I didn’t hear him say this as somebody told me, so, mm-hmm.
[00:21:27] You probably Google and verify this, but I’d heard that he said, better to cancel a concert performance than give bad performance and disappoint like that, huh? Absolutely. So if you’re having a bad day, it’s not, the worst thing to do is to cancel instead of trashing your voice. Then you get a steroid, and a steroid shot puts you back about six months because it’s, even though you get your voice back immediately, it’s six months before you, you build up your vocal endurance again because you atrophy the vocal chords.
[00:21:54] It’s essentially, Bandaid on a bullet wound, they, Ooh, bandaid on a bullet. [00:22:00] Write that down. That’s our song. You, you can’t steal it. We already own it. We bandaid on a bullet. Don’t it. Don’t it. Don’t do it. We’re watching you Bandaid on a bullet wound, you know? You know, Hey, this is a side note. Never lose a good high idea.
[00:22:14] Band-Aid on a bullet. Even in the middle of this podcast. I’ll write that down because I never lose a good hook. I’ve written over 2,500 songs and I keep adding to that. because when somebody says something clever, I’m like, bandaid on a bullet wound. So we did talk about the lip rolls and, uh, the low larynx positioning.
[00:22:33] Yeah. Uh, what, let’s maybe talk about one more technique in a pinch. You know, like getting, getting your voice in place right away. Uh, which I, you know, actually had to do recently as well. Yeah. Uh, from a long time of being dormant cuz I’ve been so in, in producer and writer and drummer mode. I was called upon on a split second notice in front of a live crowd to front a band for a song.
[00:22:58] Cause the, the lead vocalist had to run off [00:23:00] stage, uh, for a moment. So we talked about the liberals and the low layering state. What, what would be one more thing that you would throw at me in this particular case? If I said, Hey, I have to sing in 30 seconds and be convincing in front of a crowd in 36, let’s say my, I wake up, my voice is, uh, cold, I’m gonna go.
[00:23:26] And then
[00:23:31] just to be able to scale,
[00:23:36] and then one big stretch, then head voice, whoa, whoa.
[00:23:49] You try to connect from head into chest, then I’m going to meow, meow, meow. And if I can get a little bit violent with it and get some [00:24:00] force and it’s downhill. I don’t know if that’s coming across on, on, on the mic or Yeah, but it’s, it’s all connected. There’s no break whatsoever. Yeah. And so, and doing that 30 seconds now, can everybody just do that in 30 seconds?
[00:24:13] Pavarotti says, one of my favorite quotes, he goes, these, and it’s easy after 20 years, of course, . So, uh, because the sounds that he would make would be so epic. And he literally, his face would look like this, doing it. And, uh, if you haven’t seen him on YouTube, go to where he talks about. It has to be covered.
[00:24:33] The chords generally vibrate, very relaxed, which is what we talk about low lengths. And first he goes up and he sounds like he’s going to hit the note beautifully. He goes, he goes, ah. And he goes, ah, I suspected strangle, huh? But it is ah. And you think, well, that’s really, it’s bad opera. But if you’re not familiar, he starts to sound pretty good because he can’t sound bad.
[00:24:54] Right? But then he goes, oh, and you think, oh, that’s different. [00:25:00] Oh, Oh, okay. You can float up there. Ah, you can’t pinch his whiny, distorted and you watch him do it. You, it’s just insane what he does. Um, the greatest singer of our generation, if you have to pick one Pavarotti, I can do that one. And let me talk about this more stuff about people.
[00:25:21] Say there’s another criticism that I’ve heard. With my program, I set you free by teaching you to let go of your preconceived notions and all. That’s nice. Psych psycho babble stuff. I, I, I love psychology. I’m, I’m big into that, the mental aspects of the game, but sometimes it becomes psycho babble when you lose the practicality because life is incredibly practical.
[00:25:45] Sure. And you cannot violate certain laws with imp. And one law you cannot violate with impunity is the laws of musculature. So this person said, I will teach you that skills are actually harmful for your voice. And I giving his accent a way you might know who he is because I [00:26:00] kinda like the guy kind of thing.
[00:26:01] He’s charming. You know, I like, I would be good friends with him, but I would say that, but dude saying that, You’ve literally just kicked every 95% of the vocal coaches in the face. You took a drive-by shot at him. So we gotta respond. Sure. Because anybody hearing that scales hurt your voice. You’re too late, man.
[00:26:19] You’re too late. We already had a Pav rod who just scales every single day of his life when he was, you know, getting ready to perform or training because scales meter out. The control of your voice, and they are incrementally warming up. So just to go, he say, I just relax
[00:26:40] and then I get louder. I say, well, that’s kind of like a scale. Yeah. But it may not be as, they’re trying to make music more emotional rather than intellectual. But you gotta have guidelines. It do. I mean, what, how, how else do you have a foundation to set the technique? Thank you. Without scales, we’re we’re Thank you.
[00:26:57] It’s almost like saying, well, there’s X amount of [00:27:00] car related deaths every year. So by that principle, you should not be driving a car to work today. Thank you. Okay. Sounds great. But not all of us can afford afford private jets. So now what do we do? ? We learn individually how to be better, safer drivers.
[00:27:16] Put the phone down, . Yeah. Thank you. Put both hands on the wheels. Stop thinking. your friend did to you yesterday that caused you to feel inadequate or whatever. Focus on staying in between the lines. Yeah. Ooh, that’s very practical. So, to the answer to the question, that rhetorical question as can singing success or speech level singing hurts your voice?
[00:27:42] Absolutely not. As in, in fact, uh, Franco Fusi, who is the. Uh, throat Doctor for Andre Belli brought me out to this, uh, uh, seminar, Dave voa. Um, voa. It’s a seminar for the Mixed voice, and I was a keynote speaker [00:28:00] out in Forte DeMar, um, in 2000. 14, 2014 and didn’t bring me back any nichi. I know I should have brought some meat.
[00:28:09] I could have froze it for you in a dry ice. But anyway, I was out there teaching out here. It was horrible. You know what? My luggage got lost, so I had to go to any store to get something to wear besides the. Filthy clothes on my body and all they had was sweats. And everybody has dressed in suits and all those clothes I’m wearing.
[00:28:27] You were before your time. That is basically all everybody wears these days. Oh, I know. I was, and the worst thing is they didn’t fit. There were baggies. So up there teaching them baggy sweats, like, well, the good thing about it is, is in Italy you can’t throw a rock without a place to buy some clothes.
[00:28:39] That’s right. So the next day I did go buy something nice, but uh, That was the only store open. It was a little sports place, but I wa I taught there like two blocks from Bocelli’s house. It was really cool. And Franco Fusi had done a. Research program on the mixed voice. That’s why he had me as a keynote speaker cuz I wrote Mastery Mix.
[00:28:59] If you’re not [00:29:00] familiar with it and if you don’t own it, own it. Just go to my website and get it. It’ll change your life. Get it, stream it, buy it, do whatever you want, but get it. Well, he did, um, some vocal therapy on people who had nodules, polyps, cysts, all kinds of vocal trouble using the mixed method, the blend of head and chest because when you blend.
[00:29:20] Which is the lightest with ah, which is your foundation. You need a chest voice. That’s your foundation. You need a top which releases, and then you need to be able to blend those two. If you can’t, ah, if you can’t blend them without a break, and I’m not talking about going, ah, ah, and we to soften up and like you’re sneaking through there, you’re not really connected.
[00:29:43] You’re basically connected. You because maybe not flipping at a false but truly connected is when it’s a seamless. Rug. You know when you, you have one big, huge rug and then there’s a seam in the middle, but you, sometimes you can’t see it cuz the guy is so good at putting the, laying the carpet down that there’s no seam.[00:30:00]
[00:30:00] The voices should be like that. So some people go,
[00:30:06] it’s not necessarily breaking, but it isn’t truly connected. Truly connected is
[00:30:18] over and over and over. And I’m not warmed up. No, I’m sitting three feet away from you and I can tell you there’s zero break. and, and you know, and it’s just because it’s easy after 20 years. Of course. That’s all we’re gonna say, that like every podcast easy after 20 years, of course, to make Pavarotti famous.
[00:30:35] Oh, . See, we could do that . You know, I know kids who don’t know who he is. Who’s Pavarotti? Oh my gosh. Your parents need to educate you so, Scales help, technique helps. But that technique should mean that you keep your larynx fairly neutral. You have an even transition from your mouth up into your head cavity, and it’s like the letter sees in the back of your throat, starts into the mouth, ah, and every note, higher.[00:31:00]
[00:31:00] Slides further and further behind the saw palette. Ah,
[00:31:10] Not bad. I guess it’s easy after 20 years. Easy after 20 years, of course.